| yaghawj@gmail.com: Feb 15 10:28PM -0800 aeon our new year is and has always been around november...not december or january., our hauvtoj, however, is picked by "xeev laus" back in the old days...but usually during the 3 days of ...more |
| Moobthaibteb Moobtwmzeej <mooblajleeb@gmail.com>: Feb 15 11:34PM -0800 So that is how your region "peb sab moospheeb" do it, "the two events are one...as soon as we tsa ncej ntxheb, that's when we pauj lub yeem from the previous year" However that does not mean that ...more |
| AEON <mihlub@gmail.com>: Feb 16 07:56AM -0800 > our new year is and has always been around november...not december or january., > our hauvtoj, however, is picked by "xeev laus" back in the old days...but usually during the 3 days of "caiv". ...more |
| AEON <mihlub@gmail.com>: Feb 16 08:00AM -0800 On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 9:56:49 AM UTC-6, AEON wrote: > KHUVXIM 3 1 HUB PADEK UAS MUAB FOOB TSEG 1075 UAS 5 TAU PUV XYOO 5 TAU QHEB. XYOO NTAWD 3 TAU NTSES NTAU THIAJ MUAB 1 CO UA PADEK. ...more |
| yaghawj@gmail.com: Feb 16 08:42AM -0800 1. However that does not mean that other region are wrong by doing it differently, right? there is no right or wrong on how we do things. keep in mind that rituals and traditions change ...more |
| yaghawj@gmail.com: Feb 16 09:03AM -0800 To you, new year/tsabpebcaug is only pertaining to the meals that each individual family eat during that time, however the wider community seem to agree that tsabpebcaug is a festiva ...more |
| AEON <mihlub@gmail.com>: Feb 16 09:28AM -0800 > 5. and yet saying that the two are one. So which is it, are they one or are they not one? > they are one because hmoob ntshaw ntshaw fuabtais ne. but keep in mind, the most important thing ...more |
| yaghawj@gmail.com: Feb 16 10:09AM -0800 i forgot to mention soemthing very important...lub hauvtoj/tsa ncej ntxheb is not something that we need to do as a "ritual"....because it is more of a "gather/fun" event. there are many many ...more |
| yaghawj@gmail.com: Feb 16 10:12AM -0800 also, keep in mind, the ncej ntxhe, ncej ntxoo also exists in other traditions too...such as wedding. there are 4 types of mong weedings...1. go in house 2. lawv vauv 3,qhaib 4. pojnrauj... 5. ...more |
| Moobthaibteb Moobtwmzeej <mooblajleeb@gmail.com>: Feb 16 10:19AM -0800 So you are saying noj tsabpebcaug originally has no sense of community involvement? Each family can do as they please, whenever they please, for noj tsabpebcaug is an internal thing, within a ...more |
| yaghawj@gmail.com: Feb 16 10:37AM -0800 1. keep in mind, noj tsiab and noj 30 are two different things too. noj 30 involes only chickens, and this only involves the immediate family...noj tsiab is a little bigger event, involves a pig. ...more |
| AEON <mihlub@gmail.com>: Feb 16 03:03PM -0800 > there are many many times..many many villages where the tsa hauvtoj/ntxhoo part is ignored because no one is doing it. in this case, the villages that tsi tsa ncej ntxhe/toj goes to other ...more |
| yaghawj@gmail.com: Feb 16 04:00PM -0800 1. yees...he is correct on what he said...(from what he said in here only). what he forgot to say was "tsa ncej ntxhe/hauvtoj" is where we pov pob. 2. and the new year celebration happens ...more |
| BV BV <bv8bv8bv8@gmail.com>: Feb 16 10:05AM -0800 WHO IS PROPHET MUHAMMAD, MAY PEACE AND BLESSINGS BE UPON HIM? He is the one who defended the rights of all humanity 1400 years ago He defended men's, women's and children rights ...more |
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